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Poster: doodle Date: Sep 16, 2006 6:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why I Question Bobby?

Midnight Sun, You are correct, but I think perhaps I may not have made my point of view clear.
"maybe we were at entirely different shows, but i can't recall Jerry "begging some rock star antics and theatrics" at any given time...for the sake of further comment and intrigue in this subject i will offer to go out on a shaky limb by stating i believe the man to be the embodiment of antithesis of such behavior"
I agree with you, Jerry was (imo) the antithesis of such "mugging", but my take was coming from the audience's perspective, not the individual band members. I feel it was us who went nuts for that. Again, when Jerry kicked his leg or even said "Thanks", folks went nuts screaming. So, if Bob shrieked during Estimated and everyone screamed, and he shrieked the next time and everyone screamed, it sort of makes sense that he might keep doing it. To him it may have sounded like approval. Also, and this is a stretch, it might be that those shrieks and "Haa's" were one of his few avenues of "soloing". Jerry could stepout and take a lead, but this was Bob's most "vocal" (pun sort of intended) way of doing it. Let the maelstrom of disagreement and attacks begin! But, I agree, Jerry would never do those types of things and was never about those types of things. Someone mentioned Phil's famous goofing, perhaps this was Bob's outlet.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Sep 17, 2006 2:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why I Question Bobby?

doodle:

the 2nd night at Alpine 82, Jer walked out on stage for the start of the 1st set and casually waved to the audience...now THAT was certainly special!

come to think of it, i too had often felt that Bob's lack of improvised solo guitar work had a lot to do with his overcompensated vocal performances...thanks for reminding me of these impressions

i always wondered why the audience encouraged him...it seemed to be emanating primarily from the compressed crowd in front of the stage...i spent some shows in the sanctuary of the rafters, although people might respond to peaks and song selections etc., i never noticed anyone up there enabling Bob's lunacy

Hershey Park 85, i was standing off in the bleachers in the rain, there was a crowd of teenagers in front of me, during Bobby's Estimated Buzzard Kill Routine the teenager who was off to the end of the row (and looking rather dejected) said to his friends, "IT SUCKS"...i guess that pretty much summed it up in 2 words or less

This post was modified by midnight sun on 2006-09-17 09:56:17

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Poster: doodle Date: Sep 17, 2006 5:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why I Question Bobby?

"come to think of it, i too had often felt that Bob's lack of improvised solo guitar work had a lot to do with his overcompensated vocal performances...thanks for reminding me of these impressions"

Much like email, I can never determine someone's tone/inflection/meaning from certain passages. I'll take it as neutral, engaged dialogue. I'll go back to direwolf's post (I believe). He hammed, sure, but for me, it wasn't enough to detract from the overall experience. Again, I think the audience encouraged it. Like you Midnight Sun, I too, hung out up top- Jerry's side, side/behind the stage; lots of room and the suspended speakers made for good sound. If anything goofy was going on on stage, I could see it or avoid it. I agree also, the front pit definitely dug the Bob lunges (that was probably all he could see, what with the lights). I was never much for rock star antics or the antics of the crowd. Frankly, I don't know who started that NFA chant that lasted for-fucking-ever, but that was audience generated showboating, and God, I thought that bordered on embarrassing.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Sep 17, 2006 3:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why I Question Bobby?

doodle: to clarify, i was in fact sincerely thanking you for reminding me, as you supplied several very probable and much appreciated answers to my question, "why Bob, WHY?"

the funny thing is, i stared at that "thanks..." for some time wondering if it would be misunderstood as sarcasm, but couldn't think of another way around it

jam on bro

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Poster: doodle Date: Sep 17, 2006 5:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why I Question Bobby?

You are welcome, my friend. These are discussions that were always very lively and better served face to face and with plenty of beer. Now THAT was the way to find out the best "Eyes" and why Bob did what he did. Cheers :)